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Former Wales captain Ken Owens joins Conrad and Rachael for a candid discussion on the state of Welsh rugby.
From governance and decision-making to player trust, finances and the future of the regional game, Owens offers a unique perspective shaped by years inside the national setup.
We talk leadership during crisis, what needs to change at the top of the game, and whether Welsh rugby can rebuild confidence among players and supporters.
This is an honest, thoughtful conversation with one of the most respected voices in Welsh rugby.